Чемпионат Мира в Москве - 2016

[Baguto]

Девочки а можете в кратче перевести о чем речь? А то я в языках ноль, а любопытства вагон...

[na minutku]

Сообщение от Baguto

Девочки а можете в кратче перевести о чем речь? А то я в языках ноль, а любопытства вагон...

пропустите через гугло, довольно понятный перевод

[Baguto]

Так этот документ картинкой, я не знаю как текст в нем переводить? Вёсь набирать в переводчике?

[Sorbonna]

Baguto, вот тут по-русски есть:
http://pesiq.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=38837

[Baguto]

Sorbonna, спасибо)))) прочла ))))) Тока не понятно , причем тут геи)))) ?! Ржунемогу))) А какая настоящая причина?

[TAIL]

Сообщение от Baguto

Sorbonna, спасибо)))) прочла ))))) Тока не понятно , причем тут геи)))) ?! Ржунемогу))) А какая настоящая причина?

Baguto, а Вы эту ссыль не поленитесь, почитайте..., всё и поймёте...))))) Я зачиталась...))) И поняла, что здесь только Сноуден и виноват...)))))

[emerei]

А мне понравилась фраза с Песика, "Почему геи всем тычут в нос, что они геи?". Точнее и не скажешь


Baguto, а настоящая причина в последней фразе, хоть и корявого, но перевода. "Мы не можем поддерживать конкуренцию в среде, где толерантность отсутствует". Ну это... как бы, если эксперт узнает, что собаку выставляет чел. не той ориентации, то он его всенепременно засудит..

[na minutku]

Сообщение от emerei

А мне понравилась фраза с Песика, "Почему геи всем тычут в нос, что они геи?". Точнее и не скажешь


Baguto, а настоящая причина в последней фразе, хоть и корявого, но перевода. "Мы не можем поддерживать конкуренцию в среде, где толерантность отсутствует". Ну это... как бы, если эксперт узнает, что собаку выставляет чел. не той ориентации, то он его всенепременно засудит..

а если судья гей?

[Ронда]

Сообщение от na minutku

а если судья гей?

Да, а почему приглашают геев? может мне неприятно судейство гея и противно, когда он мою собаку трогает? Избавьте меня от геев! )))) Давайте встречную петицию писать!!!!!

[Baguto]

А мне всё равно.... Гей или не гей.... Я ж свечку не держу( слава богу)

[TAIL]

Сообщение от na minutku

а если судья гей?

Нередко попадали и под такого судью, всё едино! А куда теперь денешься, вариантов всё меньше и меньше...)))

Сообщение от Ронда

Да, а почему приглашают геев?..........
Давайте встречную петицию писать!!!!!

Кому? Им же?? И зачем???
Они тоже имеют право на существование, только зачем так выпячиваться...?)))

[Baguto]

TAIL, ага больше орут на каждом углу

[JASMIN]

Идиотизм!

[TAIL]

Сообщение от Baguto

TAIL, ага больше орут на каждом углу

Что бы заметили, наверное... Нам же всё равно, по-большому счёту...))) Если, только, ЭТО не касается детей, наших детей!!!

[Ирай]

Реваз Хомасуридзе опубликовал на FB:
Dear All Facebook Friends and the World-Wide Community of Dog Lovers,

Regarding the AKC letter addressed to the FCI with the request to move the 2016 World Dog Show from Moscow, I would like to note the following:

One of the main and unconditional requirements for any organization which wants to join the FCI and become its member is that such an organization shall be a public non-political and non-profit making organization.
The Russian Kynological Federation (the RKF) duly performed to all these requirements 13 years ago when it became a member of the FCI and since that time the RKF has been strictly and continuously complying with the effective policies and procedures adopted by the FCI, i.e. the RKF is a purely public organization which is not involved in neither political discussions or disputes. At the same time, being a public organization registered at the territory of the Russian Federation, the RKF respects and acts in accordance with the effective Russian legislation. Moreover, like any other European Canine Organization, has no right to interfere with any political issues – it is what the Law says and what we all should respect and accept!

As for the AKC, it is a joint-stock company, which is not a member of the FCI but at the same time the AKC is persistently trying to exert pressure on the FCI and its members and enforce its decisions.
At the same time, we should not forget that the AKC ignores the FCI Breed Standards and does not recognize them; the AKC does not recognize the titles received by dogs at FCI shows of any level; the AKC does not recognize the FCI judges and requires from them an authorization from the AKC. Nevertheless, the AKC has circulated its request to change the location of the WDS 2016 which actually a direct interference with the FCI’s internal activities and decisions.
The AKC has no right to interfere with the FCI events because the AKC contributes nothing to the FCI’s international shows – for instance, there were only 4 American participants at the WDS in Mexoco and only one at the WDS in Budapest.

As for LGTB rights in the World, the AKC should know that there are approximately 160 other countries where people of the same sex are not allowed to have partnership/spouse relations. Even in America, most States do not allow their citizens to legally register homosexual relations while the AKC is trying to create in image of the organization protecting the rights of homosexual people. By the way, has the AKC already prepared a list of countries where the WDS can be organized in their opinion? What is the country where the FCI shall move the WDS 2016, according to the Board of the AKC?

Probably, if the AKC is trying to be involved in political and social issues, particularly regarding protection of LGTB rights, then first of all the AKC should focus on observance of these human rights across America, shouldn’t they? Can the AKC give any examples with some positive outcomes illustrating how the AKC helped to protect human rights, including those of LGTB community? I do not believe they can and they will.

In my opinion, there are a few countries, Finland or Holland, for instance, which have the right to file and spread demands and proposals like what the AKC has spread all over the world of dog lovers, but not America which still tolerates the existence of Guantanamo detention camp and a lot of other vague manifestations of true “struggling” for equal and fair human rights. The AKC is mentioning its concern about observance of LGTB rights in Russia but at the same what the AKC has done to abolish the death penalty in their own country, for instance – for me killing people even if they committed a serious crime is far more against human rights than the problems in Russia the AKC is referring to. Don’t you think so?

All dog people in Europe and in Russia should join together and oppose the attempt of the AKC to ruin one of the basic principles of the FCI reflected in its Statutes, i.e. the FCI shall promote friendly relations in society for humanitarian objectives. We all should protect our friendly relations not letting political games of any kind interfere with or cause harm to our relations and distort true objectives of the FCI and European canine community, i.e. safeguarding canine health and carrying out national and international dog activities to enhance the relations between dogs and humans – these are the values which have nothing to do with politics.

We all should remember that the dog show is and shall always be a festive and happy event for those who love dogs and there shall be no place for political and commercial disputes and manifestations. The AKC shall never forget about these fundamental things as well.
Those people all over the world who are against any laws and political trends in Russia should and express its disagreement using any legally allowed and democratic tools and ways – why you are not demonstrating your disagreement with our law against Gay Propaganda Among Children (please note, that’s the true name and objectives of this law) via demonstrations with rainbow flags in your hands or using other ways and public appeals?

Why are we now letting somebody play political, economic and social games with us by mixing them up with true ideas and principles of dog shows activities?

None of the International Organizations imposed any kind of sanctions against Russia, all economic, cultural and political activities with the rest of the world are effective and rapidly developing and it proves that the UNO and all other Organization do not assume there is a threat to human rights in our country.
So, let’s stop this hypocrisy on internet and those who cannot sleep because of some laws which they consider to be unfriendly or undemocratic should get visas and come to Russia anytime and express its disagreement by standing with other members of Russian LGTB community via live demonstrations, meetings and mass media. Don’t you think that it will be a real contribution to protection of LDTB rights than sitting here in the web and Facebook and posting inefficient statements and appeals for moving the 2016 WDS from Moscow?! This sabotage should be finally stopped.

We all know about excellent organization of the 2013 IAAF World Championships in Moscow. There has been no a single case of abuse of somebody’s right because of sexual orientation. Many of athletes devotes their medals to Russian LGTB community – and I believe it was the right way to support Russian and European gays and other people who need support in other spheres of life. Sabotage, in any form, is not an efficient tool for resolving problems because it is a deadend which leads to a faster growing gap but not mutual understanding and cooperation which we all need in fact. Mass media has not reported on any cases of abuse of rights of homosexual sportsmen or sporting fans, everything was friendly like it is supposed to be at such events.

I believe that all European and American judges, who used to judge in Russia and who still come here on regular basis because they do appreciate the level of organization of our shows, high level of their accommodation here and other comfortable and convenient sides of Russian shows, will now confirm that they never had problems or obstacles when they wanted and did actually live in hotels with their partners of the same gender, they never faced a single case of harassment or abuse because of their homosexuality or any disrespect for LGBT rights.

President of America, Prime Minister of Great Britain and many European Leaders and Politicians have already declared their positions against any sabotaging the 2014 Olympic Games and they called on and asked their people not to join any campaigns to boycott the Sochi Olympics. So, regarding the WDS 2916 it should not be an exception and you all should support your leaders who announced to the World that a boycott can never be a solution for a problem.

Russia is waiting for everybody to come to the WDS 2016 whatever your religious, political or sexual choice and preferences are. With our open hearts and extended hands we are welcoming our old and new friends. I do not doubt that everybody who stands for real values and mission of the world-wide community will come to Moscow and enjoy high organizational level of our future WDS 2016, unique friendly atmosphere and famous Russian hospitality. We fully share that family sprit of European dog shows and by all means we support the FCI’s initiatives to support and promote the baseline values through ensuring high organizational level of our shows in Russia and exerting ourselves to the utmost degree to observance and ensure full compliance with true principles of dogs healthcare, kindness, mutual understanding between different nations and atmosphere of cooperation and I am absolutely confident that all Russian breeders, owners and judges do not tolerate any signs and traces of racism, harassment or any other violation of human rights.

Welcome to the WDS 2016 in Moscow!
Best Regards
Revaz